manufactured problem that slows our recovery. >> let's bring in our wednesday google. from the new york times, and anchor of once inside city haul, eric lewis. you guys watch washington from here. we are on our fifth budget crisis since republicans took control of the house. at what point does the public stop listening in washington? my sense says, boy, i just think it public is saying, you guys keep crying wolf, whatever reference, it's over and over again. >> you're right. people have tuned out. i think those that have worked for the federal government -- >> they're the pawns in this. >> they're paying attention about which agencies, so if you're middle management and up in the federal government, this is on your radar screen, but as your guests point out a few minutes, the dows are at highs. these are very broad economic indicators, and it indicates that people, if they're voting with their dollars or their brain share, they're paying more attention to the academy awards and wall street. >> and nancy, i'm cynical to this because i've what's been marked the two deadlines coming up in march.